Someone really has their panties in a bunch at the Helena IR regarding the recent mass banning of commenters. This wannabe “Inspector” is now trolling the site whining about how “Greg Baker” is really James Daggett or Atheist Educator or whomever and they all need to be banned from the site. He parades around under the moniker Javier Escondo and is making a bit of a nuisance of himself. Here are a few of his comments:
So, there you have it. Another raving loon who can’t handle the truth. As for the identity of this unhappy person, does it really matter? Of course not. He was never considered a credible source of anything and was always a prime example of the Dunning–Kruger effect. He is intimated by the cognitive skills of others and this inferiority causes him to lash out instead of improving himself. He plays the ultimate victim. It’s always the fault of someone else whenever he loses, which is often when the game is one of intellect.
Am I close, DP?
It was recently mentioned in the press that “Mike Gulledge named publisher of the Missoulian, Ravalli Republic in regional restructure.” It appears that one of his first acts was to eliminate online commenting on that paper’s site just as had been eliminated on his other paper’s site, the Billings Gazette. Here is the Missoulian’s rationale.
Considering that the level of discussion on the Missoulian had declined in the past year, particularly from a commenter, “Ross,” it probably comes as no surprise.
Speaking of “Ross,” if you aren’t familiar with him but are familiar with commenters on the Helena IR, Ross is the twin of Dan Richardson/getaclue. And, after a year or two of what fully defines “trolling” and attempts at starting “flame wars,” Dan/getaclue has been banned from the Helena IR.
Over on this thread, The bad, the ugly and the good: The Trump Effect in Montana, a LTE from the ACLU, Dan/getaclue jumped in with his usual inane attacks and made references to “lies” that he saw in the LTE. He claimed that Trump was planning of prosecuting anyone who spreads “fake news” and other false information and that the ACLU would be brought up on criminal charges. He, of course, was wrong. One commenter ever reminded him that he had posted a fake news web site a few months ago so he, and Trump himself, would be in line for prosecution themselves.
Dan/getaclue, went on a posting tirade, several that I missed reading, and it appears that the Helena IR had enough of this troll and banned his account. Going to his user profile yields the evidence: https://helenair.com/users/profile/getaclue/
So, Dan/getaclue goes the way of his comrade in arms, deitz1963, leaving the comment threads open to the thinkers. The stench of their presence is barely a memory.
I suppose the editors at the HelenaIR decided enough was enough. The comments are WAY down and it appears that most of the regulars are gone. This is likely due to a mass banning. As “Michael” said in a comment under my previous posting, he was banned. He’s probably not alone. I received a email from “James” and he said that he was banned too. He also said he created a new new account which was banned a few hours later. He was more creative in his next incarnation and, apparently, is still allowed to make comments.
So, it looks like instead of outright doing away with commenting, as the Billings Gazette did, they are just cleaning house and cracking down. If this means that the purveyor of idiocy (we know who you are) is banned, then we’ll consider our efforts properly rewarded. Many of the other “regulars” also appear to be silenced: Max, MtMadeMan, twangs, Darth, etc.
This is no loss since it’s not like we aren’t active in many other venues.
Since deitz1963 got booted, we’ll mark this up as a major win. After all, he only has himself to blame. He was the one who kept bugging the editors about what was going on in the comments.
It’s not difficult to miss how calm things are on the HelenaIR the past few days. The rancor is low as is the volume of comments. Most of the comments appear to be on topic and level of sniping is about nil.
What has changed?
It appears to be the disappearance of dietz1963. If anyone were to challenge the idea that dietz1963 was the cause of most of the troubles on that site, the peacefulness present in his absence is pretty good evidence to support that.
Of course, he could reappear and tell us how he just had another case of whooping cause, an excuse he used when PaulMont called him out and wanted a face-to-face. Time will tell whether it’s a cough or if the editors had enough of of his game, not to mention his whining to them about how everyone was bullying him.
In his last comment he said to James, “What goes over your head is, you will never out me nor break me which is your goal.”
It’s pretty obvious, considering all the time dietz1963 was proven wrong by me and others, and now his running away, or being sent to his room, that this is just another one of his claims that is false.
I received an email from a regular commenter on the HelenaIR that told him someone was complaining about his comments and was demanding that he be banned from that site. He said that he answered this by sending a long list of site violations (name-calling, trolling, lies, etc.) that the complainant had committed. Evidently the site owner is somewhat understanding.
That raises the issue of freedom of speech. Yes, we know that does not apply to a non-governmental web site, but in principle, anyone who supports the First Amendment should support it everywhere. This complainer to the HelenaIR certainly does not and this individual claims he is a veteran.
What the Whiner of Helena is upset about is, as has been well-documented here, is that he cannot mount a rational argument about ANYTHING and and is repeatedly pummeled and rounded beaten with the Stick of Logic. What is worse, for him, is that he discloses lots of personal information about himself and this is ultimately used against him.
Here’s some recent dialog, probably what led to his most recent sniveling to the editors.
One would think that after all this time, some people would learn the lesson that’s been brought down on them over and over, but not Michael Di/dietzq963.
He’s repeatedly been school on the rule of logic that it is impossible to prove a negative, yet he still hangs on to this fallacy as a talisman.
On this thread, he asks James to help him prove his claim that James had a deferment from the draft. James effectively falsifies him and does so several times, disassembling dietz1963’s “deductive reasoning” is several swoops.
Bill Bentley Jan 26, 2017 9:51pm
I’m a vet and I don’t care. The M-16 sucked, as a private citizen I don’t plan to buy one nor do I care what the now issue. If I were in the service I would care, but then again I would not have a choice.
James Dagget Jan 28, 2017 11:26am
Bill said “…but then again I would not have a choice.”
Just like the many who didn’t have a choice about joining up in the first place. Do your time, do what you are told, get out and get on with life.
Michael Di Jan 29, 2017 7:16pm
The many that didn’t have a choice? You had a choice atheist, and you chose draft deferment so you could join in marches protesting the war.
James Dagget Jan 30, 2017 6:59am
Michael Di said “…you chose draft deferment so you could join in marches protesting the war.”
And you have evidence of this, sarge?
And why would one need a deferment in order to join a protest?
Michael Di Jan 30, 2017 9:48am
Its called “Deductive reasoning combined with logic” atheist and, you all but provided the proof in a statement. Quote from one of your posts: Bill, I hear you. I haven’t marched in a protest in quite a while but I did quite a few in the past. My first was the moratorium against the draft in fall of 1969.”
Moratorium, meaning suspension of an activity. This concludes that you had a draft deferment.
As a member of the armed services, one is not able to join in political protests so yes, you needed a draft deferment cause otherwise under the MCM you would have had some jail time.
James Dagget Jan 30, 2017 1:40pm
Michael Di said “Its called “Deductive reasoning combined with logic” atheist and, you all but provided the proof in a statement…..Moratorium, meaning suspension of an activity. This concludes that you had a draft deferment.”
Well, no. You see, child, “Moratorium” was the NAME of the nationwide protest against the draft and the war.
Consider your claim falsified, again.
You said “As a member of the armed services, one is not able to join in political protests so yes, you needed a draft deferment cause otherwise under the MCM you would have had some jail time.”
Gosh, you are lame. I didn’t have to be in the military when the protests took place. Both of those big ones took place in the fall of 1969. I could have been in high school when they took place. They didn’t issue draft deferments to high school students.
Care to keep playing? If I was you, I’d cash out.
Michael Di Jan 30, 2017 3:02pm
You saying my claims are falsified means less then nothing atheist. Prove you weren’t under draft deferment and please, don’t insult my intelligence by suggesting you may have been in high school. That’s just ridiculous.
James Dagget Jan 30, 2017 5:54pm
Michael Di said “You saying my claims are falsified means less then nothing atheist.”
But they are still falsified. You’ve been pwned and choaked on your “deductive reasoning.”
You said “Prove you weren’t under draft deferment and please, don’t insult my intelligence by suggesting you may have been in high school. That’s just ridiculous.”
It doesn’t have to be me. It could be anybody. According to your “reasoning” anyone protesting at those events had to have had a deferment.
That is illogical and idiotic.
You jumped the shark, again.
I wonder if this one will end up on that blog?
In what can only be describes as surreal, bizarre, and stupid, we have this. On this thread, Trump admin orders media blackout at EPA:
Max Major Jan 24, 2017 12:05pm
Michael Di Jan 24, 2017 1:07pm
Michael Di added the “Ban?” emoticon to the above comment. It continues:
Max Major Jan 24, 2017 2:10pm
So the blithering troll wants to pretend that his devotee trump is a racial category unto himself. Hilarious…probably the height of your intelligence right there.
I know your trolling…but I’m guessing you actually somewhere think it true too. There is no guessing about some people…but there’s plenty guessing about you Dietz.
Michael Di Jan 24, 2017 3:26pm
spewter, as I’ve said time and time again, your cyber bully skills don’t impress me.
OBTW, I have more intelligence under my pinkie toe then you have in that melon you call a head.
Max Major Jan 24, 2017 3:56pm
Sure you do dietz…you keep telling yourself that one. Your record stand all too well for itself.
Max Major Jan 24, 2017 2:13pm
And he’s forbidden agencies from speaking directly with congress…it’s big brother and the corporate take over rolled into the Kleptocracy of El Trumpo.
Oh, and thanks to Dietz below who’s claiming he’s an entirely separate race from us!
Michael Di Jan 24, 2017 3:30pm
Skooter, just where did I claim Trump is an entirely separate race? You just can’t help your lying streak, can you. But as you are a democrat, I understand. You wouldn’t know the truth if it was a nuke and you were ground zero.
Max Major Jan 24, 2017 3:55pm
Um dietz…are your family members hijacking your account again? You are the ditz that claimed me calling trump President Thin-Orange-Skin was a racist remark below….Or are you having those brown outs in your brain again
So you do understand what ‘race’ – the base word of ‘racist’ means right? On second though maybe you don’t since you misuse the word constantly.
Perhaps we need the ban emoticon for people that can’t even remember the dumb things they say…?
James Dagget Jan 25, 2017 6:54am
Max, I wondered who the “orange race” was. Looks like another example of taking a pejorative and tossing it out there without understanding the meaning.
So, let’s take a look at the heart of this mess by getting to root. Max said
to which Michael replied
Max challenges that the remark couldn’t be “racist” to which Michael says
“just where did I claim Trump is an entirely separate race”
Well, gee whiz Michael, when Max said “President thin-orange-skin!” and you identify it as a “Racist remark” what the heck else could you be doing other than claiming that orange is a race?